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Bleh, this is why I don't like when they force het on Rodney -- my lovable curmudgeonly astrophysicist bantering snarkily with his hot pilot boyfriend turns into a sexist, whining idiot who's pretty well insufferable.* This shouldn't surprise me -- I am rarely happy with gender roles or dynamics the way TPTB portray them (see, e.g., the assumption that in every single society in the Pegasus galaxy, only a girl child would have a doll for a toy -- aargfrustratingethnocentrismraah), and that goes doubly so with gender dynamics within a dating/romantic/sexual relationship.

In retrospect, the Katie Brown stuff was rendered kind of great, because it all led up to them realizing how totally wrong they were for each other, but I don't think that's at all what TPTB were intending for the entire run of the "relationship" up to Quarantine, at which point they realized that, wow, that pairing was never going to go anywhere.

The asshole-ifying of Rodney that TPTB seem to think is necessary when there's a female romantic interest in his vicinity was the primary reason I was dreading Sam's addition to the show before S4 started, because I loved my Rodney dearly, and had quite a nasty shock when I saw the episodes of SG-1 he was on where he was a ridiculous, sexually-harassing blowhard. Luckily, they skirted that issue fairly well, and I loved Sam and everything was pretty great.

And it's not even that I doubt a characterization of Rodney as kind of an ass around women he's interested in -- I totally buy that, that his poor socialization and egotism would demonstrate themselves like that, and have read many, many fic that use that type of characterization very well. My problem is that I don't get the feeling from TPTB that they think it's a problem, that they think there's anything wrong, really, with how he's acting, except for the fact that it makes him less likely to get to bang chicks, and that infuriates me.

On the plus side, I liked Keller in this episode. Good job writers, now try to write an episode where Keller's cool, and you don't treat Rodney like your own personal skeevy avatar.

* Just the effect of removing my slash goggles? Maybe to a certain extent, but I really like Rodney, a whole lot, and I don't think it's just a matter of only being able to like him/relate to him if he's somehow "other" (and not your bog-standard definition of privilege, the white middle/upper-class educated hetero male). Thoughts? Did he seem differently written to y'all in this episode, or is my radar for this particularly sensitive?


p.s. John was kind of pissy when he went to see Rodney, wasn't he? Poor dear, those idiot hetero geekboys are almost all done writing stories for you, and you and Rodney and the Team and Atlantis will be left in the tender/adventurous/evil/innovative/thoughtful/thrilling/sexy hands of several thousand fangirls. We don't buy that crap about a "kinder, gentler" Rodney McKay being necessary or desirable, either. &hearts

p.p.s. Wouldn't Rodney be fairly familiar with the properties of a pendulum? Even in times of crisis, I'm guessing he'd be aware that the big spiky log thing was due for several more swings back and forth. It's kind of, what's the phrase, oh -- "basic physics", a.k.a., what Rodney lives and breathes. Writers, WTF?

p.p.p.s. This episode? NEEDZ MOAR TEYLA. Sigh. I'll imagine she was spending time with Torren, who was very hungry after not being fed for two weeks/a month/however long the last episode was supposed to take. SIGH.

Date: 2008-09-20 04:14 am (UTC)
ext_22485: (john -  y halo thar :D)
From: [identity profile] unaccompanied-g.livejournal.com
Bleh, this is why I don't like when they force het on Rodney -- my lovable curmudgeonly astrophysicist bantering snarkily with his hot pilot boyfriend turns into a sexist, whining idiot who's pretty well insufferable.

Yeah, uh, that's why I'm not going to watch this episode. :/ Well, except for the parts with John. :D

Date: 2008-09-20 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] propinquitine.livejournal.com
And that'll only take, like, five minutes tops -- think of what you can do with all that free time!

I've been kicking this idea around in my head for a while, that Rodney kind of needs John in order to be the best version of himself, because without him we get (small scale John-deprivation) the sexist ass of "Trio", or (large scale John-deprivation) the depressed and defeated Rodney that abandons Pegasus to the Wraith in "Last Man".

And I'd bet that the Rodney who created the 'verse-hopping drive in the Daedalus Variations wasn't that close to his John, because he failed where our Rodney succeeded (with the help of John's optimal blend of yelling and support). I need to think on this more, but it basically boils down to "Rodney is varying levels of okay on his own, but can reach new heights of awesome if he's got John." (Okay, not a shockingly new theory, there, but fun to try to pin down precisely. :-) Plus, it would make John happy (which is reason enough!).

Date: 2008-09-20 06:44 am (UTC)
ext_22485: (kiss me kiss me please)
From: [identity profile] unaccompanied-g.livejournal.com
"Rodney is varying levels of okay on his own, but can reach new heights of awesome if he's got John."

Hahahaha, YES! I love it. :D

Plus, it would make John happy (which is reason enough!).

Haha, that's reason enough for me. :)

Date: 2008-09-20 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] propinquitine.livejournal.com
Hee, and now I'm getting an idea for a fic where Rodney somehow looks through a, like, catalogue of the multiverse, and realizes that he never wins the Nobel Prize except in universes where he's with John. (Is Rodney's attachment to the Nobel mostly fanon, or does it come up in canon a lot too? These things get so blurry!) So he realize that, pragmatically, he needs to be with John, for the good of scientific discovery. Their hot man-on-man action will benefit all mankind!

Date: 2008-09-20 10:39 pm (UTC)
ext_22485: (mcshep - dorks)
From: [identity profile] unaccompanied-g.livejournal.com
(Is Rodney's attachment to the Nobel mostly fanon, or does it come up in canon a lot too? These things get so blurry!) Haha, I've read about it so many times, I actually have no idea anymore. *clutches head* *g*

But I fully encourage you to write this. *enables* :D

Date: 2008-09-20 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tingler.livejournal.com
Opening scene, Rodney rolling up his t-shirt sleeves to look sexy (mmrowr)--and John just *walks* in. No knock, no by your leave, says a few almost snarky things--and just leaves! No bye bye, see ya later, be careful out there buddy,have a nice time with the pretty doctor--and boy, does he seem pissy about his boyfriend Rodney going off alone with Keller! Is it just me? Because John seemed Highly Suspicious of the whole thing.

Date: 2008-09-20 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] propinquitine.livejournal.com
Not just you! John was definitely Not Pleased that Rodney was getting all sexy for his day off, and then not spending it with John.

It's funny, there were so many ways for JFlan to play that scene (smirky best friend being all wink-wink nudge-nudge "Oh, going off with Keller, eh?", for instance), and he specifically chose to play John as hurt/unhappy. He certainly makes the most of his contractually-obligated appearance in each episode, doesn't he? :-)

Date: 2008-09-20 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaffsie.livejournal.com
After reading people's reviews, I *really* don't feel like watching this episode. No Teyla, very little John, and Ronon and Rodney acting like cavemen? YAY

I'll probably watch it anyway, just for the John scenes, but it really rankles that they're wasting our last season on this love-triangle crap.

Date: 2008-09-20 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] propinquitine.livejournal.com
I know! I don't want to hate Keller, she's too much like me in some ways and I am not letting a passel of middle-aged white men with power in the media make me have negative thoughts about myself in any way/shape/form. But I still resent her for taking up so much of our precious screen time! So I'm trying to keep my resentment aimed at the meta level (effing writers!), and just ignore what they're doing to the characters.

I mean, the animosity and disrespect between Ronon and Rodney just felt wrong. Three episodes ago, Ronon's willing to ignore absolutely everyone in Atlantis (even John!) and carry Rodney bodily into a Wraith-infested planet all by himself, just to give Rodney the chance to come back to himself for a day? That's my Team! So to have them both be sniping jackasses this episode was not right, at all.

But John was kind of adorably pissy in his first scene, so it's worth it to see JFlan take us ever-closer to canon pining!John. :-)

Date: 2008-09-20 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaffsie.livejournal.com
But I still resent her for taking up so much of our precious screen time!

That's my main reason for disliking her presence too. This is our last season - can't they focus on the TEAM for once?

One of these days I'm going to build a shrine in JFlan's honour. He deserves it. :)

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